I used to date a guy in grad school for whom shaving was pure misery. He got razor burn nearly every time. He’d let it go for a few days, and then I’d get whisker burn. (If I was lucky. Other times, we were so deep into poststructuralist theory that we were always already studying.)
I’ve been thoroughly shaved (serious TMI alert!) only for pelvic surgery and childbirth. No, shaving is no longer standard for giving birth. But if they think you’re possibly gonna need a c-section, out comes the blade. My midwife apologized about it, profusely.
The re-growth was miserable. Itchy, bumpy, red, stubbly. You want the antithesis of sexy? Ooooh, honey, I had it!
In the porn world, those itchy bumps can be photoshopped smooth or covered with makeup. The rest of us can’t photoshop as we go. Nor is adjusting positions to camouflage bumps the hottest way to approach your partner in bed. Expect a chirpy article on that from Cosmo, one of those days: “Nine Sizzling Ways to Hide Your Razor Burn in Bed!”
And so, when I read even fairly civilized discussions of removing pubic hair like this thread at Em & Lo’s, I react allergically to the men who expect women to depilate their ladybits. Women’s decision to do so for their own pleasure is another matter, though one that’s now highly, highly constrained and hopelessly entangled with porn images and men’s expectations. But the guys! The clueless, it burns! Worse even than razor rash!
As you’ll see from the Em & Lo thread, a common complaint among men is that they get hair in their mouths and – just when their partner is about to see stars – they have to stop and cough up a hairball. Giving their gals oral sex turns into a tragic reprise of Bill the Cat. Fellas, I have one word for you: plunger. That’s the effect you’ve got that gals don’t. Removing a hair from your bottom teeth is an entirely different operation than us untangling one from our uvula. By these dudes’ reasoning, men ought to be hairless from their kneecaps to their belly-button, if they ever hope for us women to go down on them.
Then there’s the obdurate cluelessness about the maintenance required. If you wax, you can’t repeat the operation until you’ve got about 1/4 inch of regrowth. That’s days upon days of furriness. Which makes waxing superior to trimming … exactly how, pray tell? As for shaving, see above: itch, bumps, redness, stubble.
But what about the equity argument? Increasingly, guys are shaving, too. Hey, if they enjoy the sensation, I say go for it. But even in a perfectly balanced world, where both men and women removed their pubes, the burden would still be grossly imbalanced. Swiping a razor blade anywhere near the vulva is visually and technically tricky. You’re navigating crevasses and valleys, not just a smooth hillock. Any slip will draw copious blood. Not to mention that you’re within mere centimeters of the pleasure dome at all times.
So when guys start scraping, waxing, and depilating their cocks, let me know. That would entail something close to equal risk. Until then, a lot of folks might be more relaxed – and thus have much better sex – with an occasional trim and regular doses of Laxatone.
Bill the Cat image found here, quite possibly in violation of copyright. I claim fair use, but if Berkeley Breathed objects, I’ll gladly take it down.
Patron cat of Kittywampus (1985-2001)
EXACTLY MY FEELINGS ON THE SUBJECT.
Glad if I touched a chord! It’s been a while since I let a good ole rant rip.
What a good start to my Monday. In the blogosphere, there are only two things I enjoy more than a good rant. One is a rant couched in terms of equity, and the other is one as articulate as it is heart-felt – drawing on the memory of being felt elsewhere (ouch).
I know I shouldn’t expect anyone to do anything to their body I’m not prepared to do to mine. Principles can go off the boil however, and it never hurts to be reminded of one’s capacity for making unreasonable demands. Thank you.
Umm, I love you.
By the way, I have a funny story about Bill the Cat and Berkeley Breathed, and I can relate it to body hair.
My ex husband has a Bill the Cat tattoo on his side that looks very similar to that image. We actually saw Breathed give a speech at our university (this was 15+ years ago, ack! oop!). We chased him down outside the venue after the talk, my not-yet-ex got a book signed, and showed him the tattoo. Breathed joked about suing him and the tattoo artist. He also said he had seen a lot of Opuses (um, yeah, that’s not grammatically right, but anyway…) and then said, well, as long as you have someone who wants to have sex with you with that tattoo on you. And I was there, as his new wife, with a big smile on my face.
The body hair part? Well, he is a hairy guy. Very. Hairy. His now girlfriend, who was instrumental in our final breakup, was a good friend of mine at one point, and made me feel terribly judged about my choice not to shave anything, because it was unsexy. Now she’s with him. Not only does he have hair everywhere (everywhere, even near that tattoo) but every last one of them looks like a pubic hair, even the ones on his head.
Enjoy, babe.
I was a mere 14-year-old when I had EVERYTHING shaved before surgery. It was a profound humiliation in ways, though I couldn’t help but be impressed at the dexterity and skill of the woman who shaved me: not a single nick or scratch, even though she used a brand-new razor (which is supposed to reduce razor burn and itching when hair grows back). Still, it wasn’t something I wanted to undergo again. And then, when the hair started growing back in…. Oh, the horror. I vowed that I would never shave anything again, and I haven’t. Any complaints about that are a complete deal breaker.
Oooooh, honey, this topic really gets my blood boiling! I will rant about it with your grandmother if you give me the chance!
Pedophilia alert!
I am a practicing lesbian. I have never, EVER needed to cough up a hairball. Not once.
Additionally, I’d like to make a comparison: discomfort caused by a lil’ hair in the mouth (or the throat)is MUCH *less unpleasant* than gagging and feeling like you’re going to PUKE because a man is (grabbing the back of your head and) shoving his dick down your throat as he nears climax. I apologize if that seems crude and I realize that head-grabbing is optional, but SERIOUSLY: I’d rather have a little itty bitty pubic hair in my throat than a huge, airway-obstructing penis. Now you know why I’m a lesbian.
Ok, I’ve just read the entire thread @ Em & Lo’s. Some people were happy that no one mentioned…. shhhhh… *pedophilia.* Obviously I’m not going to be That Person (but ooops, I did it here– sorry Kittywampus!).
As far as I’m concerned, however
1> shaving bare is a generational phenomenon and THEREFORE has a direct relationship to the porn-ification of culture; and
2> naked vagina *undeniably* resembles the pre-pubescent condition of the female body.
I believe these are both FACTS. And to suggest that a conversation is going well when it deliberately skirts around both of these INCONVENIENT TRUTHS, only serves to shelter the misogyny that gave birth to this vagina-hating, money-making practice in the first place. Oh, it makes me so MAD!! It’s irresponsible to dismiss the phenomenon as a harmless personal choice. It has cultural roots and implications that deserve discussion.
Thank you. /end rant
I can’t really shave in the shower with a wet razor anymore cuz the gels & soaps are too irritating. The shave gel suds always seem to defy gravity… When I shave the rest of my body, I use this sensitive skin shaving gel now, that’s actually marketed towards men.
Tell me now, why is it that the shaving gel marketed towards men, has all the ingredients I want and relatively few of the ones I *don’t* want, but the gels marketed towards women, I have to avoid because they got crap & chap in ‘em? What the hell. This one brand I’m using, they have a men’s version & a women’s version, and the women’s version is something I refuse to use.
But then I got an electric razor and I just love it. Now I don’t really have to worry about shaving gels as much.
I *still* don’t shave bare with the new razor but I do believe I have my – as is often the case, somewhat unusual – reasons for preferring to keep the hair downstairs relatively short, if not bare. (For example: Did you know biofeedback electrodes work better when they are stuck to you and not your hair? I had to learn that one the hard way!)
This relationship I’m in must be somewhat more equal in terms of who has to shave – both myself & my partner manage the hair when we’re together, but actually I think he’s stricter with his than I am with mine.
I blogged about this, too, today. I’m wanting #baldvulvas to take off on Twitter so people will stop and THINK about this “fashion trend.”
I am so, so, so glad to read this blog post. I feel a lot less alone. Thank you.
Not only can it burn, but shaving your vagina can be dangerous.
(Only in Florida)
We seem to be in a real mess culturally. One of the most dangerous double standards is surely concentrated around the fashion for women to aspire to an infantilised imagee of themselves, both via the removal of pubic hair, and/or by starving their bodies into pre-pubescence. I’m not, of course, suggesting that a woman who does either of these things is knowingly infantilising herself, but there seems to be an inherent contradiction between the fear and lynch mob indignation whipped up by the media around the inexcusable activities of predatory pedophiles, and the images of young women it projects as desirable. Incidentally, I wish there were a better word than “pedophile”, since sexual predation on minors, which may well screw up their future lives, doesn’t seem to have much to do with love.
I’m frankly confused about choice and conformity as expressed through the fashion industry, and the anti-obesity hysteria disseminated by the diet industry.. Is choosing to yield to the pressure to conform really free choice? Certainly, if someone chooses to make themselves look as much like some fashion icon as possible, it’s not for me to tell them they’re not really making a free choice. But are they?
I agree with everyone’s feelings about this issue because I’ve felt them all in some degree. I don’t like shaving anything, but feel I have to in order not to gross out anyone who has to look at me. I guess I’ve always felt that way, but as Reg pointed out, how much of this is my choice? Probably not any of it. I’m not yet comfortable enough in my own skin to dress as I like, color or not color my hair, keep my extra pounds, or to shave my pubes. Like Undercover Punk I have good reason to avoid looking at myself critically and even with some shame, but I still succumb to it. It takes a mighty loving hand to wipe that away.
Personally I don’t like completely hairless people. I like bald men and hairy men. I hate shaving the hair off my pubes because it’s hell when it grows back and the only reason to do so is so as not to gross people out at the beach because you don’t have a fab Brazilian wax or not to sicken your partner with hairballs. Well, life is messy. Life is hairy. Life is also too fucking short not to love ourselves properly. Why can’t we quit doing what everyone else wishes and start doing only what we wish? Is there any place for that? Not sure.
Oh, you wonderful people! It’s so easy to feel so alone when choosing not to succumb to social pressures. The fact is I’m actually making a choice I might not otherwise make entirely because I object to the “standard” being forced on me!
I’m going to come back and read your comments again and again when I’m feeling alone and insecure about this.
Join me in the #baldvulvas hashtag on Twitter? (Just to raise awareness of the issue, not to say anyone’s bad for their choices!)
As a totally blind male, I often wonder how it would feel to see all this. Sight must be great, but it seems to put people under so much, to me incomprehensible, pressure.
In this case I think it would be quite a gift to not have to see how we are “supposed” to be.
Yes, not being able to judge people by their appearance is rather like having a virtue compulsorily thrust upon you without being virtuous.
No one’s really virtuous when it comes to attraction. Or, everyone is.
Ditto to just about everything said above, and I have to say that I am SO glad that I am old enough and secure enough not to particularly give a flip whether someone finds my pubic hair unattractive. Christ, I have a difficult enough time keeping my legs & pits smooth (summer only)…can’t imagine having to deal with the pressure of keeping my bits smooth too!
And the whole pedophilia aspect of it…yeah. I really don’t understand why more people aren’t creeped out by this.
On the up side, I recently read on some online forum that pubic hair is starting to be considered “retro”! The idea that my crotch is now “retro” gives me the giggles every time I think about it
So when guys start scraping, waxing, and depilating their cocks, let me know. That would entail something close to equal risk.
Also, let me know when they start “pe-dazzling” their pee-pee and applying irritating dye (My New Pink Winky, anyone?) to avoid the shame and sorrow of an aging, discolored scrotal sack.
I’m repeating myself, but YAY this is so refreshing. I felt like I’d entered the Twilight Zone when I started looking around “out there” (approaching divorce) and found these trends.
I’ve got to get over it, though, because if I look outside myself to find out if I’m sexy, I’ll always be let down.
T-Babe, Newly divorced myself, I found the prospect of getting back into the “meat market” as my friends called it and urged me endlessly to participate in, was daunting at best. I asked myself why I had to make myself package-able like produce so some guy/gal would find my now 50 year old contents palatable! Forget that *$&$ as we used to say. If someone doesn’t find me “palatable” as is, then I’m not looking!
Still, still, I thought about doing it … I’m not quite that free of conditioning yet apparently.
That’s where I hope to get (“forget that *$&$”) in my 40 year old self.
As if there were any changes we could make, in an effort to “rebrand” ourselves which would ever be anything other than superficial and short term. The truth will out eventually.
Stereotypically, the commodities being traded are free stuff and sex. If both parties like playing chirades, and the whole thing is predicated on having a good time for a while, then repackaging oneself for market could work. In my limited experience, aspirations are rarely equal. One party may be thinking longer term, but goes along with the short term rules to get into the game. To always have an anxious eye on the gap between me as a human being, and me as a marketable product – clothes, dieting, shaving, might get me a free meal or a free lay, but the trouble with a fix is that I’m going to need another one when this one wears off.
Laughing Medusa, I’ve subscribed to your blog. Reg Webb, do you have one?
TsaphanBabe
yes I do have a blog, which I hope is now shown, typically rambling and sporadic though it is.
As a screen reader user, I know nothing about visual presentation of course. Thanks to my wonderful muse for input in that area.
I’ll link to you on Tangentville; any delay will be me fighting the interface.
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